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This Week in America1d ago · 44 comments

A stranger's proposal went viral — should brands be allowed to meme it?

A rooftop proposal at the Empire State Building blew up online this month, and within a day corporate accounts were racing to spin it into jokes and ads. Defenders say the couple posted it publicly and the riffing is just how the internet celebrates now; critics say turning two people's biggest private moment into free marketing is ghoulish no matter how good the caption is. Which is it?

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  • Kofi1d ago

    my wife and I got engaged in 2019 and a photo of us at the reception went semi-viral — like 80k shares viral, not millions — and I want to tell you that strangers using your most personal moment as a vehicle for their own content, whether it's brands or just randos, feels genuinely violating in a way that is very hard to explain unless it happened to you. you didn't consent to becoming a meme. you just shared something you were happy about.

  • Marco1d ago

    I work in social media marketing and I want to be honest with you all: half those brand tweets are scheduled by a 24-year-old making $42k who has twelve minutes to hit a trend before it dies. There is no ethics meeting. There is no approval chain. It's just "funny angle go" and then whoever runs the account hits post and prays the boss doesn't call it cringe.

  • Sam R.16h ago

    The real issue nobody wants to say out loud is that the platform is the one profiting most from all of this and nobody is angry at them. The couple posted, the brands reposted, the users engaged, and Instagram or TikTok or wherever it lives sold ads against every single one of those interactions. The brands are a sideshow. The platform is the house and the house always wins.

  • Maya S.1d ago

    okay but tabloids weren't selling you chicken sandwiches at the same time so maybe that distinction matters a little bit

  • Riley 2120h ago

    Respectfully the retired teacher is describing something real but the answer isn't nostalgia — it's regulation. The EU has already been moving toward stricter rules on commercial use of user-generated content. America just refuses to follow because our entire ad economy is built on the assumption that public = free for everyone including corporations with billion-dollar budgets.

  • Ravi5h ago

    The person saying "just hire a lawyer" to a couple who just got engaged and presumably have better things to do with their first week of being engaged than filing cease-and-desist letters needs to reread what they wrote and think about it.

  • Sam22h ago

    The person who said the couple probably doesn't care hasn't read the woman's own statement where she explicitly said she felt her moment was "taken from them." So. That happened.

  • Reese9h ago

    What I want to know — and nobody seems to be asking — is whether the brands who did this got any measurable sales bump from it. Because if the answer is no, then they took someone's personal moment, made themselves look gross, and got nothing for it. Which would mean this whole thing is just reflexive brand behavior divorced from any actual business logic. Brands doing dumb things because brands have always done dumb things.

  • Theo1d ago

    To the person describing their own experience: I believe you, and I'm sorry that happened. But I also think there's a spectrum here. A Wendy's making a burger joke with your photo attached is categorically worse than someone making a "goals" post. Using the image without permission is different from riffing on the story. The discourse is collapsing a lot of distinct things into one pile.

  • Iris14h ago

    To the person who said we should be glad it didn't go viral — genuinely the most wholesome thing in this thread and you are absolutely right

  • Drew L.11h ago

    Someone upthread asked what the actual legal situation is and the answer is: it's a mess. Right of publicity laws vary wildly by state. New York actually has one of the stronger statutes but enforcement against a brand that cropped the image or just described the event without showing faces is almost impossible. The couple would have to prove commercial exploitation of their specific likeness and show actual damages. Good luck.

  • Feli R.18h ago

    "reportedly laughed" — can we please stop using "reportedly" to launder claims that aren't sourced? Either they said it or they didn't.

  • Jordan7h ago

    The mom who said her daughter thinks it's just how it works now — that gap between descriptive and normative is doing a lot of heavy lifting in this whole debate. A lot of people are arguing "this is normal" when the actual question is "should it be."

  • Priya1d ago

    The couple posted it publicly on a public platform and it got shared a million times before any brand even knew it existed. At what point exactly does "public" stop meaning public?

  • Yuki3h ago

    The gap I see in this whole debate is that we're talking about whether brands SHOULD do this and completely ignoring whether platforms should allow it. You could solve ninety percent of this by requiring commercial accounts to get approval before reposting or directly referencing identifiable private individuals in a monetized context. That's a policy choice platforms could make tomorrow if they wanted to. They don't want to.

  • Yuki11h ago

    I keep thinking about the people at whatever agency or internal team who pitched these ideas in a meeting and everyone nodded along and nobody said "wait, should we be doing this?" That silence is the actual problem. Not one bad post. The culture that produces it without any friction.

  • Omar15h ago

    Okay the platform critique is valid but it doesn't let the brands off the hook. "Someone else is also bad" is not a moral argument. It's deflection.

  • Feli1d ago

    The thing that gets me is the speed. The engagement ring is barely on her finger and some brand account has already turned her teary face into a punchline for their quarterly Q3 engagement metrics. There's no pause for human decency. Just the algorithm demanding content NOW and brands complying like obedient little dogs.

  • Yuki5h ago

    Hard to get too worked up when the couple could absolutely file a complaint, contact the brands, demand posts come down, or hire a lawyer. Adults who post publicly on major platforms in 2025 know the terrain. I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying learned helplessness in the face of something you have actual legal avenues to address is a choice.

  • Avery19h ago

    I'm going to be the person who says it: some of those brand posts were actually funny. Not the ones that used the image. Not the ones that were clearly just ad copy. But a few of them were genuinely clever and the couple themselves reportedly laughed at one or two. Humor about a public event isn't automatically exploitation.

  • Quinn2h ago

    At the end of the day the internet made this couple famous and fame has always come with a loss of control over your own image. That's a tragedy in its own right but it's not a new one and pretending brands invented it is letting a lot of other actors off very easy.

  • Taylor1d ago

    If you disagree that there's a meaningful ethical line between using someone's image versus referencing a public story, explain how you square that with the fact that tabloids have been doing the latter for literally a century and nobody called it ghoulish then.

  • Zara T.10h ago

    The agency person in this thread already told us there was no meeting. That's somehow worse.

  • Elena14h ago

    I proposed to my girlfriend last year at a pretty ordinary restaurant and I am so glad it didn't go viral. Reading this thread I feel like we dodged a bullet. We have our moment and it belongs to us. That sounds cheesy but I mean it completely.

  • Drew21h ago

    I'm a 63-year-old retired teacher and I genuinely do not understand why corporations need to have personalities on the internet. A tire company does not have opinions about your engagement. A fast food chain is not your friend. This whole performance of brands being "relatable" is one of the stranger cultural developments of my lifetime and proposals going viral just exposes how predatory the whole thing actually is.

  • Marco12h ago

    The confidently wrong take I keep seeing in this thread is that "they posted it publicly so anything goes." That is not how consent works in any other context. Publishing a photo of your house doesn't mean I can use it in an ad for a real estate company. Sharing a personal story doesn't transfer commercial rights to it. The law is actually fairly clear on this even if enforcement is patchy.

  • Liam 927h ago

    My daughter is 26 and she showed me this story and her reaction was basically "that's just how it works now, Mom." And I didn't know what to say to that because she's not wrong that it's how it works. I just don't think "that's how it works" is the same as "that's okay."

  • Riley22h ago

    Hot take: the couple probably doesn't care at all. They went viral. They're famous for a week. Brands amplified that. In 2025 that's the dream, not the nightmare, for a huge percentage of people under 35.

  • Iris11h ago

    so basically brands can do whatever they want and the only consequence is a bad tweet ratio. cool cool cool

  • Nina2h ago

    They don't want to because that policy would cost them money. See previous comments about who actually profits here.

  • Taylor T.1d ago

    ghoulish is exactly the right word and i'm tired of pretending otherwise

  • Ravi17h ago

    this thread is doing more fact-checking than most news sites rn

  • Theo R.4h ago

    Nobody in this thread has mentioned that this happens to people of color significantly more often and the meme-ification often carries a different and uglier edge. That part of the conversation keeps getting skipped over and I don't think it's an accident.

  • Drew23h ago

    "obedient little dogs" lmaooo but also accurate

  • Noah12h ago

    okay the law is NOT fairly clear on this, the legal standard for commercial use of a viral moment involving your likeness is genuinely contested territory, ask any IP attorney

  • Nina S.1d ago

    same honestly. been there

  • Zara R.8h ago

    this is the real question and I have a feeling the answer is deeply embarrassing for the marketing teams involved

  • Zara 2115h ago

    both things can be true people

  • Riley19h ago

    regulation lol good luck with that one in this political climate

  • Marco5h ago

    lol yeah "just hire a lawyer" is doing a lot of work in that comment

  • Alex 921d ago

    Wendy's really said "our spicy nuggets are also a proposal you can't refuse" didn't they. I hate it here

  • Priya B.6h ago

    descriptive vs normative in my debatika thread, wasn't expecting that today

  • Morgan21h ago

    wait she actually said that? link?

  • Noah17h ago

    nope

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