Do prayers actually do anything, or just make the person praying feel better?

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  Leo _x4d ago

  I used to think prayer was embarrassing. Then I hit a period where I had nothing left and I started talking to the ceiling at 3am. I don't know what I was talking to. But I wasn't alone anymore. That's not nothing.

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  Alex1d ago

  i prayed every night for my mom to survive cancer. she didnt. and i dont blame god or whatever. but i also cant sit here and tell you prayer does something real in the world. it did something inside me maybe. i kept going. but she still died. thats the whole story.

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  Drew 921w ago

  I'm an ER nurse. I've watched families pray in waiting rooms for thirty years. I don't know if God hears them. I know that the ones who pray seem to hold together longer when the news is bad. I'm not dismissing that.

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  Theo1d ago

  hot take: this whole debate is just people who've never been in genuine crisis telling people who have what their experience meant. i was in a collapsed building for six hours. i don't care what the neuroscience says. something happened in there that i don't have other words for.

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  Marco S.1w ago

  I prayed for years to be straight. God did not answer that prayer. I'm gay and fine with it now, but let's not romanticize all the directions prayer gets aimed.

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  Avery1w ago

  my grandma prayed over me when i had a fever as a kid and i still remember how safe i felt. was it the prayer or just her hands on my forehead and her voice? honestly does it even matter

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  Kofi L.1w ago

  I'm an atheist who meditates every day. Functionally I think I'm doing the same thing religious people do when they pray quietly — clearing mental noise, regulating breathing, forcing reflection. We just disagree on who's listening.

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  Avery3d ago

  Spent three years as a hospice chaplain. I've prayed with people of a dozen faiths, and with people who had none. At the end, almost everyone wants to speak into the silence and feel heard. The theology barely matters by then. The reaching out matters.

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  Ravi1d ago

  I spent years using prayer as a reason NOT to deal with my anxiety. 'Give it to God' sounds beautiful until you're 34 and realize you've never actually developed any coping skills because you outsourced all the hard emotional work. I'm not saying prayer is bad. I'm saying it can absolutely function as avoidance, and the people around you will praise you for it.

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    Omar1d ago

    This is the most honest thing in this thread. The praise-from-community angle is underrated. You pray visibly and people admire your faith. You go to therapy and some communities look at you like you failed. That incentive structure does real harm.

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  Liam5d ago

  I asked my pastor once if unanswered prayer ever bothered him. He said 'every single day.' I wasn't expecting that. It made me trust him more than any sermon ever did.

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  Ravi1w ago

  It's a placebo. Full stop. We wouldn't accept 'but it makes the patient feel better' as justification for prescribing sugar pills for cancer. The comfort argument doesn't make the supernatural claim true.

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  Nina3d ago

  The double-blind intercessory prayer studies have been done. Multiple times. Rigorous methodology. The results were null, or in one famous case, slightly negative because patients who knew they were being prayed for got more anxious. At some point you have to let the evidence land.

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    Quinn R.3d ago

    okay but you literally cannot double-blind God. the whole framework assumes prayer is a vending machine you can test. that's not how any serious theologian understands it to work.

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      Iris M.3d ago

      That's actually a really important point and also completely unfalsifiable, which is kind of the problem. 'You can't test it' and 'it works' cannot both be your position.

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  Taylor1d ago

  The fact that we're even debating whether prayer 'works' tells you everything about how thoroughly therapeutic culture has colonized religious life. Prayer was never supposed to be a wellness tool. It was supposed to be an encounter with the holy. That it might lower cortisol is about as relevant as noting that baptism involves hydration.

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  Leo S.1w ago

  Even if it 'only' calms the person praying, that's not nothing — that's a free, ancient form of meditation that's outlasted every empire. Dismiss it at your own loss.

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  Noah1w ago

  The word 'just' in 'just make the person feel better' is doing a lot of heavy lifting in this question. Making someone feel better in the middle of suffering is an extraordinary thing to do.

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  Zara T.1d ago

  I genuinely want someone to explain to me why 'it makes you feel better' is treated like the consolation prize. Entire pharmaceutical industries exist to make people feel better. We build parks, fund the arts, maintain national holidays — all to make people feel better. The moment religion does it, suddenly feeling better is insufficient. The goalpost is rigged.

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  Morgan T.3d ago

  Can we acknowledge that 'makes the person praying feel better' is an enormous category? We're talking about people surviving grief, war, illness, poverty, loneliness. If prayer is the mechanism that gets them through, calling it 'just' comfort is genuinely condescending.

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  Riley6d ago

  I think the more interesting question is: what does it reveal about humans that we've prayed continuously for at least 10,000 years across every culture that ever existed? That universality means something, even if you think the object of prayer is imaginary.

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  Yuki B.1d ago

  I'm a clinical psychologist. What I can tell you with some confidence is that regular contemplative practice — including structured prayer — correlates with reduced rumination and better distress tolerance in several populations. What I cannot tell you is whether that's the prayer or the routine, the community, the meaning-making, or a dozen other confounds. Anyone who gives you a clean causal answer in either direction is selling something.

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  Iris1w ago

  There have been actual peer-reviewed studies on intercessory prayer — most found no statistically significant effect on health outcomes. The Templeton Foundation funded one, literally hoping to prove it worked, and couldn't. That's as honest as science gets.

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    Taylor1w ago

    okay but the study measuring intercessory prayer is measuring the wrong thing. no serious theologian thinks prayer is a vending machine where you put in faith and get out miracles. that's a caricature of the belief.

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  Feli _x6d ago

  The placebo effect is real and measurable and powerful. If prayer activates it, that's not a dismissal — that's actually remarkable. The mind healing the body through belief is one of the most interesting things in medicine.

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  Marco S.4d ago

  The framing of 'just making someone feel better' as a consolation prize bugs me. Mental and emotional states ARE physical states. Changing how someone feels is changing their neurochemistry, their cortisol, their immune function. The dualism in the question is outdated.

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  Riley _x2d ago

  No one ever asks whether HOPE does anything. We celebrate hope constantly. Hope that a surgery goes well, hope that the economy recovers, hope that your kid makes the team. Prayer is just hope with an address. Why does putting a recipient on it suddenly make it superstitious?

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    Nina2d ago

    Because hope doesn't imply that someone is choosing your outcomes and sometimes choosing against you. That's the part that breaks down for me. If God answers prayers, God also chooses not to answer them. And I'm supposed to feel good about that relationship?

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  Jordan 211w ago

  Oh so when prayer fails it's just the wrong theology and when it works it's God. Unfalsifiable by design, convenient by necessity.

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  Alex 215d ago

  The 'comfort' framing misses what praying actually feels like from inside it. It's not like taking a warm bath. On hard days it's an argument. It's anger. It's 'where are you and why is this happening.' That's not comfort. That's wrestling.

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  Taylor3d ago

  I'll be the contrarian: I think prayer can also do damage. It can replace therapy, delay medical care, create guilt when it 'fails,' and give people the feeling of action without any actual action. Comfort isn't always net positive.

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  Zara1w ago

  If prayer only makes the person praying feel better, then it does exactly what humans have always needed most: a way to metabolize fear and grief. That's not a small thing. That might be the whole thing.

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  Kofi1d ago

  Someone upthread asked why putting a recipient on hope makes it superstitious. Because direction implies mechanism. If I hope my surgery goes well, I'm not claiming a conscious entity will reroute biological processes. The moment you say someone is listening and could intervene but sometimes chooses not to, you've introduced an entirely different metaphysical claim that hope doesn't carry. The analogy is flattering but it doesn't survive ten seconds of inspection.

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  Jordan1w ago

  ^ This. Some prayers aren't just harmless comfort-seeking. They can be years of self-flagellation wrapped in scripture.

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  Zara1w ago

  The question assumes prayer has one purpose. For some it's petition, for some it's gratitude, for some it's just... sitting in silence with something larger than yourself. You can't measure all of those on the same scale and call it science.

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  Alex3d ago

  What annoys me is people acting like 'makes you feel better' is the ceiling of what prayer could do. If there is a God, prayer is the most practical thing you could possibly do. The premise of the question only works if you've already assumed the answer.

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  Quinn6d ago

  My father prayed every single morning for fifty years. He was also the most disciplined, focused, emotionally stable man I knew. I'm not saying one caused the other. But I watched and I wonder.

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  Jordan 216d ago

  Placebo only works for subjective symptoms like pain and nausea. It doesn't shrink tumors. Let's not overextend it into miracle territory.

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  Morgan T.1d ago

  Hot take: the people most threatened by this question are not atheists. They're the moderate believers who've quietly stopped expecting prayer to change anything external and need everyone to agree that internal transformation 'counts' so they don't have to examine what they actually believe anymore.

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  Priya3d ago

  I've noticed that people who have never experienced genuine suffering tend to be most confident that prayer is useless. It's a lot easier to be certain from the outside.

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    Sam3d ago

    That's an ad hominem. Someone's biography doesn't determine whether their argument is valid.

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      Hana3d ago

      it's not an ad hominem to say experience is relevant to a question that's fundamentally about experience. i'm not dismissing the argument, i'm questioning whether we can evaluate it without having lived it

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  Feli2d ago

  My grandmother prayed the rosary every single morning for 94 years. Not because she expected miracles. She said it kept her 'oriented.' Like a compass check. I'm agnostic and I've started doing something similar — just sitting, naming what I'm grateful for, asking for nothing. Whatever you want to call it, it changes the day.

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    Taylor2d ago

    The 'it's basically meditation' reframe is so frustrating to me as an actual meditator. They are not the same thing. Meditation has decades of neuroscience behind it. Prayer is asking a supernatural being to intervene. Conflating them to rescue prayer from scrutiny is intellectually dishonest.

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      Omar2d ago

      respectfully disagree — there are forms of contemplative prayer that neurologically look almost identical to meditation on fMRI. centering prayer, hesychasm, certain sufi practices. the brain doesn't know the difference between 'talking to God' and 'focused breathwork' in some of those studies. so maybe the mechanism matters less than the practice?

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  Liam6d ago

  Humans have also universally engaged in war, tribal hierarchy, and fear of outsiders for 10,000 years. Universality doesn't confer value.

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  Maya _x4d ago

  This is the most honest thing in this thread. The psalms are full of rage and accusation. Prayer as placid stress relief is a very modern Western self-help repackaging.

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  Jamie1w ago

  Lots of things are unfalsifiable and still real. Love, consciousness, the experience of color. Unfalsifiable doesn't mean fake.

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  Drew1w ago

  there's a difference though. in prayer you believe something is receiving and responding. in meditation you're working entirely with your own nervous system. the metaphysics change the practice even if the posture looks the same

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  Kofi L.1d ago

  There's also something worth examining in who gets to define 'actually doing something.' If a person prays and then has the courage to leave an abusive situation, or forgives someone who hurt them, or shows up for a neighbor — did the prayer do nothing? Outcomes don't only look like tumors shrinking.

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  Liam1d ago

  What I notice is nobody in this whole thread has defined what 'actually do something' means. Change physical outcomes? Build character? Maintain a relationship with the divine whether or not it changes anything observable? The question isn't even well-formed yet everyone's very sure of their answer. Classic internet.

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  Iris4d ago

  why does psychological benefit require you to pick a theological side? a thing can be genuinely helpful AND the metaphysics can be uncertain. you dont have to resolve everything to notice that something works

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  Taylor1w ago

  But that's a theology problem, not a prayer problem. Plenty of traditions would say those prayers were being aimed at something that isn't God at all.

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  Omar6d ago

  Agreed but prayer isn't analogous to tribalism. One is about turning inward and reaching up, the other is about excluding. Those aren't comparable just because they're both old.

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  Morgan 211w ago

  respectfully the nurse's observation is survivorship bias and availability heuristic working together. we notice the composed grievers who prayed. we forget the ones who prayed and still fell apart.

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  Priya1d ago

  lol @ 'you cannot double-blind God' as if that isn't the most convenient escape hatch ever constructed. by that logic you can never test ANY supernatural claim because the supernatural can always just choose not to perform. its unfalsifiable by design and you're defending that as a feature

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  Taylor1w ago

  Believers and atheists are arguing past each other because one's measuring outcomes and the other's measuring the inside of a person. Both are kind of right.

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  Zara _x6d ago

  nobody here is claiming prayer shrinks tumors except the person arguing against it. straw man alert

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  Casey4d ago

  hard pass on this whole discussion. either God exists and prayer reaches Him or He doesn't and it doesn't. all the 'it helps psychologically' stuff is people trying to keep a foot in both doors

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  Morgan R.1w ago

  'Thoughts and prayers' after every tragedy while nothing changes kind of answers the question, doesn't it? At some point action is the prayer.

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  Jamie R.1w ago

  Prayed every night for my mom to recover. She didn't. But the praying got me through nights I wouldn't have survived otherwise. Make of that what you will.

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