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This Week in America6h ago · 48 comments

Can a politician back the ICE crackdown and still hire undocumented workers?

Reporting this month found Nebraska’s governor employs undocumented workers even as he publicly supports the federal immigration crackdown. Defenders say the labor market is broken and everyone from farms to hotels quietly runs on the same arrangement, so pretending otherwise is the real lie; critics say if you campaign on enforcement and staff your operation this way, the word for it is hypocrisy. Which reading wins?

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  • Marco S.6h ago

    I grew up on a farm in the Panhandle and I promise you there is not a single commercial operation in this state that doesn't know exactly what its labor situation looks like. The governor isn't unique, he's just caught. That's the whole story.

  • Ravi 925h ago

    I'm one of the workers. I won't say where. I see the news. The people who employ us know who we are. The people who want us gone know who we are. Only difference is one group needs us to show up Monday.

  • Nina T.5h ago

    To the person saying everyone does it — okay, but most people who "do it" aren't also going on television to demand mass deportations. There's a specific cruelty in advocating to ruin the lives of the people whose labor you depend on. That part isn't covered by "the system is broken."

  • Kofi 213h ago

    To the hotel manager — respectfully, that argument works fine for a random business owner. It strains credibility for a governor who has been publicly and vocally directing state and federal resources toward immigration enforcement. At some point proximity to the issue implies awareness. That's not unfair.

  • Theo6h ago

    The "everyone does it" defense is genuinely one of the laziest arguments in American politics. Everyone speeding doesn't make the cop who speeds while writing tickets any less of a hypocrite.

  • Marco2h ago

    I keep seeing the "everyone does it" argument and I want to name what it actually is: it's the normalization of exploitation as a policy position. We have decided as a society that certain industries get to externalize their labor costs onto vulnerable people, and the governor is just the visible tip of that arrangement.

  • Yuki K.4h ago

    Nobody is addressing the obvious gap here which is: what happens to those workers NOW? The reporting is out, their employer is a prominent political target, and they are the most exposed people in this whole story. Does anyone have an update on that?

  • Leo5h ago

    I spent twelve years in immigration compliance consulting for mid-size agriculture companies, and the structural dependency on undocumented labor is real and deep. But here's what that actually means: politicians SHOULD be using that reality to push for comprehensive reform, not to bash immigrants at fundraisers while quietly keeping them on staff.

  • Ravi5h ago

    That comment above is going to sit with me for a while.

  • Leo B.1h ago

    I just want someone — anyone — to ask him directly, on camera, to account for this. Not a prepared statement. Not a spokesperson. Him. Looking at a camera. Explaining it. I am not holding my breath.

  • Jamie T.3h ago

    My grandfather came here without documentation in the 1960s, worked farms for fifteen years, eventually naturalized. Built a life. I think about him every time I see someone who employed his equivalent call for mass deportations. It's personal to me in a way I can't fully explain.

  • Reese2h ago

    That response to the grandfather comment is technically true and also kind of cold. Noted.

  • Jamie B.3h ago

    "The labor market is broken and everyone does it" is a true statement AND it's being used dishonestly here to deflect from a specific individual's specific public record. Both things are true at once. Complexity isn't a shield.

  • Priya6h ago

    The word for it is hypocrisy. Full stop. You don't get to cheer ICE raids at rallies and then cut labor costs by hiring the exact people you're threatening to deport. That's not a nuanced take, it's just the definition of the word.

  • Sam1h ago

    If you think the hypocrisy critique is sufficient here and we can just vote this guy out and move on, you're missing the part where the next governor will do the exact same thing because the economic incentives haven't changed at all. Moral accountability without structural change is just theater.

  • Liam4h ago

    I'm a veteran and I'll be honest — I voted for tough immigration enforcement every chance I got. Stories like this make me feel stupid for trusting these people. Not changing my view on the border but changing my view on the messenger.

  • Hana S.2h ago

    Employer liability for knowingly hiring undocumented workers exists under federal law (INA Section 274A) but prosecutions of employers are historically rare and politically very selective. So the legal exposure is real but the actual risk of consequence is low. That asymmetry is a whole other scandal in itself.

  • Ravi5h ago

    I switched my reading on this over the last 24 hours honestly. I came in thinking it was a labor market story. Then I read more about the specific rhetoric he's used. Now I think it's a character story.

  • Avery3h ago

    I don't think it's wrong I think it's just convenient framing. There's a difference.

  • Diego 215h ago

    If you disagree that this is straightforward hypocrisy, explain how you square that with the fact that this governor has specifically called for more ICE resources and stricter enforcement. Not vague "secure the border" rhetoric — specific, targeted calls for the exact policy that would remove these workers from his payroll.

  • Yuki K.2h ago

    Hot take: the story getting the most traction is the hypocrisy angle because it's juicy, but the more important story is that we've designed an immigration enforcement system that punishes the worker and protects the employer at almost every turn. The governor is a symptom.

  • Jamie4h ago

    Okay but can we talk about enforcement too? If the federal I-9 verification system is this easy to game, and everyone from governors to hotel chains is gaming it, maybe the enforcement mechanism itself is the problem and not just the individual bad actors?

  • Kofi1h ago

    To be fair the hypocrisy critique and the structural critique aren't mutually exclusive. We can hold him accountable AND push for reform. We're allowed to do two things.

  • Elena3h ago

    Thank you for sharing that. It adds something to this conversation that the policy argument alone doesn't.

  • Hana3h ago

    I manage a hotel in the midwest and I'll just say the labor situation is not as simple as people on Twitter think. We have run E-Verify on every hire for six years. We still find discrepancies after the fact because the documents people present can be very convincing. So the "he knew, he always knew" certainty in this thread is a little much.

  • Marco _x2h ago

    The fact that employer-side enforcement is so lax compared to worker-side enforcement is one of the most under-discussed aspects of this whole policy area. Glad someone brought it up.

  • Ravi _x6h ago

    my aunt runs a small landscaping company outside Omaha. she has tried FOUR TIMES to use the federal H-2B visa program to bring in seasonal workers legally. the paperwork alone cost her $3,000 and the workers arrived six weeks late. so yeah, the legal pathway is not some simple obvious fix people pretend it is.

  • Nina T.4h ago

    Good question and I don't think anyone's reported on it yet. Which is itself a reporting failure.

  • Zara2h ago

    I hear you but personal stories aren't immigration policy. We can honor your grandfather and still have an enforcement debate.

  • Nina _x5h ago

    The farm lobby has been screaming for guest worker reform for twenty years and neither party will touch it seriously. Maybe the story here is that BOTH parties let this rot so long that the hypocrisy is now baked in nationwide.

  • Jamie3h ago

    the hotel manager comment is the confidently wrong take of this thread, sorry

  • Marco S.1h ago

    you won't see that interview

  • Omar6h ago

    lol imagine being surprised by this

  • Morgan4h ago

    The I-9 point is fair, but it doesn't let individuals off the hook. Structural problems explain behavior, they don't excuse it.

  • Feli 923h ago

    I've been following Nebraska politics for a long time and this governor has been extremely deliberate about his immigration messaging. This isn't a guy who wandered into the crackdown position. He built his brand on it.

  • Riley1h ago

    that's a genuinely good way to put it

  • Theo S.4h ago

    this is what bothers me most too. the story breaks and everyone debates the governor's integrity and the actual people at risk disappear into the background of the news cycle

  • Liam2h ago

    Does this legally expose the governor to anything? Genuinely asking, not making an accusation, I just don't know what the employer-side liability looks like in a case like this.

  • Nina 215h ago

    No defense here. None. Pick a lane.

  • Diego4h ago

    same

  • Zara1h ago

    exactly thank you

  • Drew _x4h ago

    at least youre honest about it

  • Noah B.2h ago

    there's always one

  • Liam3h ago

    well said

  • Jamie S.5h ago

    not shocked not even a little

  • Riley3h ago

    brand is the right word

  • Zara2h ago

    nobody goes to jail for this on the employer side ever basically

  • Yuki R.1h ago

    ever

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