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Religion & Belief2d ago · 15 comments

Is reading scripture in translation basically reading a different book than God 'wrote'?

The Hebrew 'almah' (young woman) became 'virgin' in Greek and launched a doctrine. 'Camel through the eye of a needle' may be a mistranslated 'rope'. Most believers have never read a word of the original Hebrew, Greek, or Arabic. So are billions worshipping a translator's choices — and would your faith survive reading the text in its first language? Pick a side.

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  • Iris2d ago

    The almah/virgin one is the heavyweight. An entire virgin-birth doctrine may rest on a Greek translator picking the wrong word for 'young woman'. Billions of people, two thousand years of theology, possibly hanging on one mistranslation. Sit with that.

  • Noah1d ago

    Which is the most honest position of any faith, frankly. Christianity hands you 'the Word of God' in English and lets you forget a translator stood between you and it. Islam at least makes you acknowledge the gap.

  • Maya1d ago

    Reading in translation is fine for meaning, fatal for proof-texting. You can get the gist of 'love your enemies' in any language. You cannot build a precise doctrine of the Trinity on prepositions that don't even exist the same way in Greek and English.

  • Reese1d ago

    That's actually the most devastating version of the point, not a defense. If even native readers had to interpret, then 'the clear word of God' never existed for anyone. There was always a human mind deciding what it meant.

  • Drew1d ago

    Translation isn't betrayal, it's interpretation, and EVERY reading is interpretation, even in the original. The ancient Hebrew reader also had to decide what 'almah' meant. There's no pristine unmediated text anywhere. It's interpretation all the way down.

  • Leo M.1d ago

    Notice the move though — when the translation helps the doctrine, suddenly the ancient translators were geniuses with deep cultural insight. When it hurts, they were fallible men. The standard flips to protect the conclusion every time.

  • Quinn 211d ago

    I studied Koine Greek specifically to stop trusting other people's translations. Best and worst decision of my faith life. You gain precision and lose comfort. Half the verses I'd built my life on are blurrier in the original than any English Bible admits.

  • Omar1d ago

    As an Arabic speaker reading the Quran, I promise you the English 'translations' are not the same experience. The rhythm, the double meanings, the wordplay — gone. Non-Arabic Muslims are reading a faithful summary, not the thing itself. Islam basically admits this by refusing to call translations 'the Quran'.

  • Morgan1d ago

    Or the Greek translators 200 years before Jesus understood the connotation better than a modern skeptic with a lexicon app. 'Almah' implied an unmarried young woman, which in that culture meant virgin. You're flattening a cultural word into a dictionary gloss.

  • Elena K.1d ago

    That one genuinely rocked me too. If 'eternal' punishment is actually 'age-enduring' correction, that's not a footnote, that's a completely different God.

  • Riley1d ago

    Jewish learning takes this seriously — you're expected to wrestle with the Hebrew, the vowel pointings that were added later, the words with five meanings. The idea that a clean English sentence captures it is treated as naive from day one.

  • Avery1d ago

    Would my faith survive the original languages? Mine did, but it came out humbler and looser. I stopped saying 'the Bible clearly says' because in the original, very little is clear. That phrase is a translation artifact.

  • Maya1d ago

    Ex-evangelical. The day I learned 'eternal' (aionios) might mean 'of an age / age-long' rather than 'forever' I realized the entire doctrine of eternal hell could hang on a translation choice. The most terrifying idea in my childhood, maybe a word pick.

  • Riley L.1d ago

    The camel/rope thing is overstated — most scholars think 'camel' is original and it's deliberate hyperbole, Jesus being vivid. But the fact that we're even DEBATING whether it's a camel or a rope proves the larger point: you don't actually know what was said.

  • Kofi1d ago

    Most believers can't read the original and never will, so functionally they're trusting a committee of scholars they've never met made good calls. That's fine — but it's faith in translators, which is a very different thing from faith in God directly.

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