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This Week in America12h ago · 30 comments

Should schools have to post a report card on how they police phones?

Starting this month, New York districts must publish public summaries of how they enforced the phone-free school law, while the same law bars suspending kids over it. Parents who wanted teeth say a website post is enforcement theater; teachers say naming and shaming schools just dumps another paperwork job on them. Transparency or busywork?

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  • Yuki S.12h ago

    The same legislators who said "phones are destroying kids' brains" also said "but don't you dare suspend them for it." Pick a lane. You cannot call something a crisis and then make it consequence-free.

  • Leo M.8h ago

    The whole framing of "naming and shaming" is so backwards. We publish test score data by school. We publish attendance data by school. We publish budget data by school. Suddenly publishing phone enforcement data is unfair? No. Districts just don't want to be compared.

  • Sam10h ago

    If naming and shaming schools was busywork, districts would have lobbied quietly to kill it. The fact that some of them are howling about this requirement tells me the requirement is hitting something real. Sunlight, etc.

  • Jordan12h ago

    I'm a middle school teacher in Queens and I want to be crystal clear: I did not become an educator to spend my evenings filling out compliance summaries for a website that three parents will ever actually visit. I love my students. I do not love being the accountability prop for a policy that still won't let me actually enforce anything.

  • Reese4h ago

    The "it's just paperwork" crowd is doing the same thing districts have done with every accountability measure since No Child Left Behind — complain about the burden until the requirement quietly dies. I've watched this cycle four times in 20 years of education reporting. The paperwork complaint is a pressure strategy, not a genuine objection.

  • Drew L.8h ago

    I'm 22 and I went through high school with basically no phone rules. I am telling you from the inside: I missed so much of those years staring at a screen during lunch and I didn't even know it was happening. I thought I was connected. I was nowhere.

  • Leo B.10h ago

    To the teacher from Queens — with respect, "paperwork I don't want to do" is not actually an argument against accountability. Doctors document. Cops file reports. Professionals in every field do compliance work. Why should schools be exempt from basic transparency?

  • Kofi 926h ago

    Something nobody is mentioning: what about kids whose phones are a medical necessity? My son is Type 1 diabetic and his CGM syncs to his phone. Any policy that doesn't carve that out clearly is going to create real harm. Does the report card track exemptions? Because it should.

  • Marco M.2h ago

    I changed my mind on this over the past year. I used to think phone bans were helicopter parenting extended into the school day. Then I subbed for a semester and watched a room full of eighth graders be physically incapable of sitting with boredom for four minutes. That's not a teenager problem. That's a product design problem we're asking teachers to solve alone. The report card doesn't fix that but at least it's something.

  • Nina9h ago

    My son's teacher told him she can see his phone buzzing in his pocket and literally cannot do anything permanent about it. She said the word "frustrated" four times in one sentence during parent-teacher night. That is the actual situation on the ground.

  • Leo5h ago

    The parent who said their daughter's grades went up a letter — that's one data point and I say that gently. Correlation isn't causation. Maybe it was the teacher. Maybe it was maturity. Maybe it was the phone policy. We genuinely don't know without broader data, which is exactly why the report card matters.

  • Avery B.2h ago

    The person who said removing a privilege is a real consequence — I hear you but privilege removal only works when it's applied consistently and when the student believes you'll follow through. Without any real escalation path, you get kids who just wait you out. And they will.

  • Zara 217h ago

    If you disagree that the report card is useless without a standardized rubric, explain how you square that with literally every other education accountability measure we have — every single one specifies what gets measured. Why would this be different?

  • Maya11h ago

    My daughter's school in Westchester confiscated her phone in September and she cried for two days. I was skeptical at first honestly. But her grades came up a full letter grade and she started eating lunch with actual humans again. I am now a full convert. Whatever enforcement looks like, keep it.

  • Jamie _x4h ago

    What I want to know is whether any parent has actually used one of these public summaries to show up at a school board meeting and demand change. Because if the answer is zero, then we have our answer about whether this works.

  • Sam R.6h ago

    Look I'm not saying phones in school are fine. I'm saying a PDF on a district website is not a solution. My kid's school website still has the 2019 calendar on the front page. These people are going to produce a rigorous enforcement report?

  • Zara8h ago

    The comment saying sunlight hits something real — I want to push on that. Hitting something real and producing actual change are two different things. NYPD releases data constantly and bad practices persist. Transparency without teeth is a feel-good exercise.

  • Maya T.2h ago

    What I want someone to explain to me is what the actual end state looks like here. Report card published, parents read it, parents are mad, then what? Is there a mechanism to penalize a district for bad enforcement? If not, this is a cycle that goes nowhere.

  • Liam10h ago

    Retired principal here, 28 years. The report card idea is fine in concept but the metrics matter enormously. Are we counting confiscations? Warnings? Repeat offenders? Without standardized categories every district will report differently and the comparison will be meaningless noise.

  • Sam5h ago

    to the diabetic kid's parent — this is so important and it gets lost in every phone debate. Blanket rules without medical carve-outs are not just inconvenient, they're potentially dangerous. Hope your district is handling it right.

  • Theo M.3h ago

    My wife is a school librarian in Long Island and her district's response to the phone law was to appoint a committee to study the phone law. The committee has met twice. There is no policy. There will be no report card. Albany can post whatever it wants.

  • Nina6h ago

    Teacher from Queens again jumping back in — the commenter comparing us to doctors and cops: doctors have dedicated admin staff and billing departments. I have a prep period and 34 kids. The comparison doesn't hold.

  • Iris9h ago

    honestly the suspension ban is the right call and people acting like removing a privilege isn't a real consequence have never actually worked with a teenager

  • Kofi T.4h ago

    zero is probably being generous

  • Avery7h ago

    the 22 year old's comment actually got me

  • Reese11h ago

    transparency theater is still theater

  • Jordan5h ago

    bold of anyone to assume districts read their own websites

  • Theo9h ago

    @the retired principal — this is the gap nobody is talking about. Who decides what goes in the report? Because if Albany doesn't spell it out, you'll get 700 districts inventing 700 different formats and parents still won't know anything useful.

  • Alex K.10h ago

    idk man seems like another albany idea that looks good in a press release and dies in implementation

  • Feli3h ago

    nope not even close to a fair characterization of teachers who are already drowning

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